tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8585732092994259978.post5379132894132143762..comments2024-02-26T19:22:15.069-06:00Comments on Lex Christianorum: How Liberalism Cuts Out the Natural Law: John Rawls's Sleight of Hand, Part 2Andrew M. Greenwellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17242573723573203387noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8585732092994259978.post-33384736391706749212010-04-10T19:55:00.953-05:002010-04-10T19:55:00.953-05:00We certainly seem to have common notions regarding...We certainly seem to have common notions regarding liberals!Andrew M. Greenwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17242573723573203387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8585732092994259978.post-63368706993351626962010-04-10T19:43:58.488-05:002010-04-10T19:43:58.488-05:00John Rawls is really a nutcase; a man who is so bl...John Rawls is really a nutcase; a man who is so blinded, a man who doesn't know reality. He creates this "original condition", against the teaching of Genesis, against Divine Revelation? Then he has it that all are "free and equal"? Right. Again, more idiocy. Is a Man equal to a woman? No. Aristotle writes, "Tis meet that Greek rule Barbarian". Nothing is Equal. Again, Aristotle writes of the Natural Law, (in his book Politics) "All things are either in Authority or subjection". God put all women under subjection of Males! Period. End of Discussion. If in the microcosm of gender there is authority/subjection, then in the macrocosm of Men, there are some who are going to be in authority and in subjection. Nowhere does the real original Natural Law teach equality. John Rawls is doing something that Rev. Fahey has pointed out: <i>"Kant carried out the "Copernican revolution" of making things conform to the human mind instead of the human mind seeking to grasp the objective order of the world".</i> It is obvious that John Rawls, J. S. Mills and other sundry liberals can not grasp the objective order of the world. Why listen to people like this. They don't have a clue what is going on. These people just need to be dismissed outright. If you can't see the world as is---No amount of "reasoning" will touch them". They are blind idiots. They are fools. They are not worth the time of day.WLindsayWheelernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8585732092994259978.post-42925583176106657642010-04-10T19:32:08.237-05:002010-04-10T19:32:08.237-05:00And what exactly is a "Pluralistic society&qu...And what exactly is a "Pluralistic society"? Is it Western Culture? Is it Western Civilization? Or is it really Marxism? A Pluralistic Society is a Masonic Society.<br /><br />On the back of the American One Dollar Bill is this saying under the Pyramid: "Novus Ordo Seculurum". And the Motto of this Novus Ordo is "E Pluribus Unum". It means "Out of Many, One".<br /><br />This is Masonic. This is not the Natural Law. <br /><br />The Natural Law is this "Ex Uno, Plures"! Out of God the Father, proceeded the Son and the Holy Spirit. That is the model for the rest of Creation. Everything operates on that principle, i.e. Macrocosm/Microcosm. "As above, So Below". Out of One Adam, Many Men. From the Patriarchs arose tribes. From Isaac arose 12 tribes. Ex Uno, Plures. From One Dog, arose 120 different breeds. (And by the way, you can NOT breed back! You can not take a Chihauhau and breed a Wolve out of it!) Scripture has it that there was to be NO intermarriage between the tribes, What God had separated---Man was not to combine! That is the Moral Lesson of the Scriptures.<br /><br />Out of one Matriarch, Helen arose the Acheans, the Ionians and the Dorians. <br /><br />Freemasonry is about reversing the Natural Order; it is about reversing Ex Uno Plures. "Ex Uno Plures" is the Natural Law. America is condemned by the real original Natural Law. A Pluralistic society is about replacing Western Culture and Western Civilization! Beware that thou be NOT deceived. God mentions that a couple of times. No one enters heaven who is deceived.WLindsayWheelernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8585732092994259978.post-1609607903520214232010-04-10T19:00:18.743-05:002010-04-10T19:00:18.743-05:00From the first part of the series: ""it ...From the first part of the series: <i>""it matters not what our moral, philosophical, or religious convictions may be as to "human nature, dignity, and destiny."""</i><br /><br />Joseph de Maistre a traditional Roman Catholic fighting liberalism, democracy and egalite recognized this new form of speaking about humans in a deracinated way: "The Constitution of 1795, just like its predecessors, was made for man. But there is no such thing as man in the world. In the course of my life I have seen Frenchmen, Italians, Russians etc.; I know, too, thanks to Montesquieu, that one can be a Persian. But as for man, I declare that I have never met him in my life; if he exists, he is unknown to me."<br /><br />Is there a "human nature" or is there an European nature distinct from a Semitic nature? Is there distinct nature from an Anglo-Saxon to a Frenchman? Where the Doric Greeks have a distinct human nature different from the Ionian Greeks? Was there a distinct racial nature between the Romans and the Greeks?<br /><br />I don't know where moderns come up with this horsesh*t, but as a classicist, you can not tell me that there is a "common nature" between the Ionians and the Dorians! I'll point to J. Salwyn Shapiro's work <i>Liberalism and the Challenge of Fascism</i> where he compares and contrasts the difference between France and England with Liberalism. You can't say that there is a "human nature". <br /><br />Where is Georges Dumezil? Are we not aware of his work? The case of Trifunctionality buried within the psychical thought of European peoples? Or this shouldn't matter?<br /><br /><i>""What we will see, however, is that the Rawlsian "political morality" is not neutral; it is not even secular; it is decidedly secularist.""</i><br /><br />Not only do we not know the real natural law--we do not even know the Divine Law. Did not God in Genesis put ENMITY between the sons of darkness and the sons of light? Was it that St. Paul say "What does Baal have to do with god"? A secularist is an Atheist. We have NO business participating in a secular society. We have no business even entertaining such drivel! Plato had atheists put to death in the Laws! Plato even saw that there can be NO quarter given between atheists and theophili! NONE. No covenant can be made, no social contract between secularists and believers. God put enmity that can not be put away. (In Christendom, atheists were suffered, and suppressed.)<br /><br />The Natural Law. What exactly is the Catholic Church promoting when you announce a <i>"can accomplish what secular writers such as . . . Rawls seek to accomplish. It can provide an accurate understanding of the moral principles and norms that should govern political life in the concrete circumstances of particular societies," including, and perhaps most especially, those that are pluralistic. George, 81.""</i><br /><br />The natural law? Only the Roman Catholic Moral one? or the rest of the Natural Law? The real original Natural Law condemns pluralism! It does not exist in a pluralistic society. The Natural Law is lived, breathed, obeyed in an Natural Organic society and nowhere else!WLindsayWheelernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8585732092994259978.post-83656258896382430892010-04-10T18:39:04.575-05:002010-04-10T18:39:04.575-05:00From the first part of this series: ""re...From the first part of this series: <i>""regardless of their particular religious or philosophical comprehensive commitments""</i><br /><br /><br />This sentence needs to be rewritten to say, "regardless of their particular religious or philosophical or RACIAL commitments."<br /><br />What about their commitment to the their kinsmen? Again, I point to a peasant saying, "Blood is thicker than water".<br /><br />To disregard race, that race does not matter, that ties of blood have no impact is Nihilism!<br /><br />Does not Scripture condemn miscegenation? Then, why aren't we mentioning Race? Or is it because it is taboo to mention race in Catholicism? Race does not matter with Roman Catholics? That Roman Catholics adopt the Novus Ordo when it suits them?<br /><br />You don't play on the Devil's playground! He sets the rules and then we have to argue to his set and of course slanted boardgame? I think not!<br /><br />Tell, where does a "Pluralistic society" come from? Is it "Natural Organic" or is it a man-contrived state? I thought the Catholics upheld and promoted "The Natural Organic Theory of the State"! So what are we doing meddling with secularists, liberals, Freemasons, etc for?<br /><br />A Pluralistic society is at essence about "relativity", there is NO truth in it whatsoever! A Pluralistic society is a creation of Man. God created races, tribes, nations---But nowhere did God create a Pluralistic society! A Pluralistic society is nihilism. There is nothing there for a Catholic or Orthodox to engage in! The first basis is that if all men are equal, then all ideas are equal as well. Equality denies all principles, any hierarchy of value!!!!!!<br /><br />The basic fundamental of Christian thought and the Natural law is a Heirarchy of values, laws and principles! There is none of that in a Pluralistic society.WLindsayWheelernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8585732092994259978.post-16711137042472384812010-04-10T18:29:20.868-05:002010-04-10T18:29:20.868-05:00scoffs at the suggestion that the natural law is t...<i>scoffs at the suggestion that the natural law is truth based upon reason. </i><br /><br />The real Natural Law of the Greeks and Romans is based on Nature. That is why it is called the "n-a-t-u-r-al" Law. I don't know what is going on but communists "reason", socialists "reason", Liberals like John Rawls "reason", J. S. Mill "reasons, Catholics "reason". Much of Human Thought is reason---but, just like Protestants which have 1200 sects, Reason likewise has 1200 sects!<br /><br />But a funny thing happened---"There is ONLY ONE Natural Law". The Earth teaches only ONE type of Righteousness. There is no Catholic righteousness, no Communist righteousness, no Liberal righteousness. The Natural Law teaches Reality. <br /><br />The Basis of "Reality" is Reason! This is what is meant by the Greco-Roman term natural Law---discovering the Reason, The Logos, behind the Natural Order. Humans don't make the Natural law. It is NOT human Reason. The Natural Law is the DIVINE WISDOM that built the Natural Order. <br /><br />Psalm "How great are thy works O Lord, IN WISDOM, has thou made it all"!<br /><br />That Wisdom that built the Natural Order is called by the Greco-Roman tradition, Socrates, Plato, Horace, Ulpian, the Natural Law. The Natural Law is not dysfunctional corrupted venal corrupted Human reasoning! <br /><br />Correct human reasoning must be based on principles and laws from Divine Revelation and the Wisdom of the Natural Order. The Natural Law is not "reasoning out of thin air" which I think is the gist behind the RC conception of the natural law.WLindsayWheelernoreply@blogger.com